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>> well, this is a situation where chrysler fired the workers. they were embarrassed by the video of course. it went national. it went international. they fired the 13 guys pretty quickly, because they wanted to send a message that, you know, this is not the image that chrysler wants. so they fired these guys quickly. then it goes through the arbitration process. took two years. chrysler hired a bunch of lawyers, i assume. the uaw hired a bunch of lawyers, i assume. they battle it out in court. the arbitrator is like the judge, and arbitrator said these guys deserve their jobs back. now in the statement that chrysler said -- gave me, they said this happened during their off-duty time. so technically, i guess, they were not paid. even the uaw has rules where it says they don't tolerate alcohol and drugs in the workplace, but these guys were in their off-duty time them. spent their lunch getting high, having a good time, then going back to work. so i don't know. >> what was it like when you first happened upon the scene? take me back to that moment
>> well, this is a situation where chrysler fired the workers. they were embarrassed by the video of course. it went national. it went international. they fired the 13 guys pretty quickly, because they wanted to send a message that, you know, this is not the image that chrysler wants. so they fired these guys quickly. then it goes through the arbitration process. took two years. chrysler hired a bunch of lawyers, i assume. the uaw hired a bunch of lawyers, i assume. they battle it out in...
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chrysler now twice. we see that in the southern states where the transplants are without the unions. they weren't the ones who went bankrupt last -- in 2008 and 2009. so it really is a choice. it's a tough choice. and i sympathize with the unions but the fact is that in the global economy where you have to compete on wages and other elements, of the units of production, can you either have, you know, high wages with low employment or you can, as obama would say, spread around the wealth. the fact is that in the right-to-work states, unemployment is 6.9%. >> we have a graphic that shows right-to-work vs. non-right to work statements on employment, go ahead. >> and in the other stays the non-right-to-work it's 8.7. so you can choose to have fewer workers who enjoy higher inflated unnatural, if you like, wangs on uncompetitive wages. or competitive wages and more people employed. more people with the dignity of a job and less unemployment. more taxation and more activity. i think it's it the right choice bu
chrysler now twice. we see that in the southern states where the transplants are without the unions. they weren't the ones who went bankrupt last -- in 2008 and 2009. so it really is a choice. it's a tough choice. and i sympathize with the unions but the fact is that in the global economy where you have to compete on wages and other elements, of the units of production, can you either have, you know, high wages with low employment or you can, as obama would say, spread around the wealth. the...
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and remember the chrysler workers smoking and drinking during the lunch break? two suspended and they got their jobs back. that was an arbitrator's ruling. under the union contract they were on their own time. chrysler says it disagrees with the decision, can't change it, that's the example of the union's power. and tell us what you think about the workers getting their jobs back. and we'll read some on the air. more fantasy island in california, coming up after the break, why california's green energy policies just don't work and we're also going to bring you the opening bell and we've got more companies issuing special dividends before the end of the year. including the one that runs victoria's secrets. you know how painful heartburn can be. for fast, long lasting relief, use doctor recommended gaviscon®. only gaviscon® forms a protective barrier that hes block stomach acid from splashing up- relieving the pain quickly. try fast, long lasting gaviscon®. relieving the pain quickly. ...so as you can see, geico's customer satisfaction is at 97%. mmmm tasty. an
and remember the chrysler workers smoking and drinking during the lunch break? two suspended and they got their jobs back. that was an arbitrator's ruling. under the union contract they were on their own time. chrysler says it disagrees with the decision, can't change it, that's the example of the union's power. and tell us what you think about the workers getting their jobs back. and we'll read some on the air. more fantasy island in california, coming up after the break, why california's...
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chrysler said that. not the union. >> sorry, sorry. chrysler said that. so like next time something falls off your chrysler, like your steering wheel cover kind of slips off, now we know why, because you're like sailing -- 30,000 feet up high. knobs always fall off. let's get another nickel bag before i go back to work. ridiculous! >> gretchen: it speaks to the power of the union. it really does. and whatever they had in the language of their contract, the arbitrator sided with them. so they must have this sort of ironclad language. you're a lawyer what, do you think? >> well, i think chrysler is now on the receiving end of what so many others feel in states where unions are really powerful. and so they're now the ones who have to deal with it. as a legal matter, i don't think chrysler is going to be able to challenge this. i think the ruling is going to stand and maybe chrysler will rue the day they were so lax and tolerant of union power. >> steve: speaking of power. powerball, the second guy who won t
chrysler said that. not the union. >> sorry, sorry. chrysler said that. so like next time something falls off your chrysler, like your steering wheel cover kind of slips off, now we know why, because you're like sailing -- 30,000 feet up high. knobs always fall off. let's get another nickel bag before i go back to work. ridiculous! >> gretchen: it speaks to the power of the union. it really does. and whatever they had in the language of their contract, the arbitrator sided with...
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we talked earlier this week about the power of unions and the situation in chrysler up to detroit where a fox affiliate reporter caught the guys on tape. there they are boozing and smoking pot on their lunch break then going back and working with heavy machinery building automobiles. and they just got ordered to get their jobs back despite the tape. they are on tape. because the way these union contracts are and the rules. now we hear these guys, these healthcare workers who are accused of just so our viewers know, removing patient i.d. wrist expands, patient identifiers from the room dears and wheelchairs. the name tags for thal humaner's ward were mixed up. the photo attached to medical records were removed. >> they have five days. healthbridge. five days in which to make their appeal. what is interesting is the judge in this case. he was select about it national labor relations board at the behest of the service employees union. he has hand picked by the nlrb. he is a clinton appointee. and he is hardly a dispassionate and objective player. megyn: it could have gone the other way und
we talked earlier this week about the power of unions and the situation in chrysler up to detroit where a fox affiliate reporter caught the guys on tape. there they are boozing and smoking pot on their lunch break then going back and working with heavy machinery building automobiles. and they just got ordered to get their jobs back despite the tape. they are on tape. because the way these union contracts are and the rules. now we hear these guys, these healthcare workers who are accused of just...
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they don't want to have happen to them what happened to general motors or chrysler. yothey make it less profitable r unions. as a result you get more invested and more jobs. jobs are one thing michigan definitely needs. lori: i agree. the unions would argue many of the freedoms, many of the advantages their workers enjoy her because of the lobbies and the history they have had, therefore the unions are deservedly deserve their dues. >> if you can persuade workers to give you their money, that is fantastic, that is your constitutional right. they should not be forced to pay dues to the union. 20% of union households in michigan support the right to work law. probably because there's a awful lot of union workers don't go there again the value worth of their dues or supports priorities. they should have a choice, that is their right. lori: we have seen unions lose membership, lot less clout than in generations past. how do you characterize the influence of unions right now? >> it is a competitive marketplace. up through the late 70s the detroit automakers headlock on th
they don't want to have happen to them what happened to general motors or chrysler. yothey make it less profitable r unions. as a result you get more invested and more jobs. jobs are one thing michigan definitely needs. lori: i agree. the unions would argue many of the freedoms, many of the advantages their workers enjoy her because of the lobbies and the history they have had, therefore the unions are deservedly deserve their dues. >> if you can persuade workers to give you their money,...
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chrysler isn't even an american company anymore, it's owned by the italians. it has been a colossal disaster, and it's going to continue to be. the unions with their work rules and exceptions and restrictions on workers -- not so much the paycheck. most of the three big japanese makers in the south that are not dominated by unions do not have those work rules, but they pay about the same dollars per hour in many wages. so the wages can be paid, it's the crazy union work rules and defending people who drink on on the job, for example, that cause problems that are running american business out of the country. alisyn: all right. lars larson, leslie marshall, kudos for being able to debate over the cacophony coming out of lansing. >> hey, we didn't have any beeps. >> kick those union thugs out. alisyn: thank you so much. >>> meanwhile, a popular u.s. retailer now under fire for including a series of profanity-laced items in its annual christmas catalog. why they did it. >>> plus, a 6-year-old girl near death from leukemia making a miraculous recovery. up next we'l
chrysler isn't even an american company anymore, it's owned by the italians. it has been a colossal disaster, and it's going to continue to be. the unions with their work rules and exceptions and restrictions on workers -- not so much the paycheck. most of the three big japanese makers in the south that are not dominated by unions do not have those work rules, but they pay about the same dollars per hour in many wages. so the wages can be paid, it's the crazy union work rules and defending...
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for everyone from public school teachers that are unionized to autoworkers on the line at gm, ford or chrysler. interestingly, though, today, too here, brooke, you had fellow union workers protesting that aren't even part of the legislation. it does not apply to firefighters or police officers. but yet here today we found firefighters who were protesting this saying this is bad for workers across michigan. and nationally. i want you to listen to ted coakley, he's one of those and he explains why. does this mean the gbeginning o a death of unions in the country? do you think it is that big symbolically? >> i think things like this are waking the sleeping giant. i think workers and working families are tired of losing. they want a fair share of the prosperity of this state, and this country, and i think that's going to help build the union movement. >> reporter: -- from this right to work legislation. why are you here? >> that's correct. as of right now we're exempt from this legislation. but it doesn't change the fact that we want to be here to support all our brothers and sisters in the unions
for everyone from public school teachers that are unionized to autoworkers on the line at gm, ford or chrysler. interestingly, though, today, too here, brooke, you had fellow union workers protesting that aren't even part of the legislation. it does not apply to firefighters or police officers. but yet here today we found firefighters who were protesting this saying this is bad for workers across michigan. and nationally. i want you to listen to ted coakley, he's one of those and he explains...
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what's happening with chrysler. what's happening with ford. >> yep. >> i mean, these are companies that are fighting back. >> coming back. >> and it is inspiring. >> they need strong unions. >> let's do a town hall meeting. >> let's do it. that was fun. we did that in new jersey on education. let's do it. >> let's go to detroit and we can talk about this, also how to revive detroit. >> michigan, you did a show for the big detroit regional chamber of commerce. >> look forward to that. >> we're all going to be there. >> in vermont, you don't need, because of the icy conditions there, a ford raptor, do you? >> oh, you need a raptor. >> i have a hybrid escape. >> raptor's a lot like the escape. >> except it has horrific gas mileage. the raptor. >> oh, the raptor. >> four miles to the gallon. >> escape gets good mileage. >> 31 in the summertime. it's fantastic. >> impressive. >>> still ahead, political analyst richard wolffe. also the president of the university of pennsylvania and author amy guttmann explains why the pe
what's happening with chrysler. what's happening with ford. >> yep. >> i mean, these are companies that are fighting back. >> coming back. >> and it is inspiring. >> they need strong unions. >> let's do a town hall meeting. >> let's do it. that was fun. we did that in new jersey on education. let's do it. >> let's go to detroit and we can talk about this, also how to revive detroit. >> michigan, you did a show for the big detroit regional...
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without federal money, chrysler and gm would have gone bust. >> the liquidity. like aig -- >> exactly. let me finish. you talk about it's all wasted. that's not true. that's not true. some of it is well spent. and i think you should answer your question. sandy, not named after me, had a major impact on the east coast. there's been a request for help from the federal government. i'm all in favor of accountability. >> but did you have accountability with katrina? i don't think so. it's your constituents that are paying for the wasteful money. if you're coming here telling your constituents, you really don't -- >> no, look, i'm saying, i'm in favor of accountability. >> the congressman from new jersey needs to speak up for the state. >> i'm in favor of accountability. let me finish. after accountability is built in, will you vote yes or no? >> i will be supportive of slaks once we have the accountability in place. >> good. >> work with me on the accountability, fantastic. >> absolutely. i'll make sure the people in new jersey and new york are not left high and driv
without federal money, chrysler and gm would have gone bust. >> the liquidity. like aig -- >> exactly. let me finish. you talk about it's all wasted. that's not true. that's not true. some of it is well spent. and i think you should answer your question. sandy, not named after me, had a major impact on the east coast. there's been a request for help from the federal government. i'm all in favor of accountability. >> but did you have accountability with katrina? i don't think...
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if you had gm stock or chrysler before the bailout your stock value went to zero. 92 and gm was declared bankrupt. stock holder didn't appeared and in the court stock hold ares got a real hair cut. the union won and the bond holders lost. it is it a title myth the idea that unions saved detroit. >> brian: what about the union workers who say those who are not in the union are free rider will benefit from their bargaining power with the car companies, for example. >> look the right to work is enshrined in michigan and right not to have to pay union duce is ensidelined and that is it a good thing. >> gretchen: to me, it is it the most important state that this has happened in because the autoindustry is such a hunal part of the economy there and the union is so strong there. do you agree with that? >> absolutely it is the home of the autoindustry union and the idea that michigan should revert to being a right to work state, that is it a revolution in the labor market. >> steve: we heard in the run up to the election, while the gm autoworkers wound up keeping their pensions and benefits, it
if you had gm stock or chrysler before the bailout your stock value went to zero. 92 and gm was declared bankrupt. stock holder didn't appeared and in the court stock hold ares got a real hair cut. the union won and the bond holders lost. it is it a title myth the idea that unions saved detroit. >> brian: what about the union workers who say those who are not in the union are free rider will benefit from their bargaining power with the car companies, for example. >> look the right...